Book Talk – Spirals: The Ukraine War and the Toppling of the World
France, and several other key European countries, are in a state of deep domestic crisis, at a time when the war in Ukraine, the policies of the new US administration, and the rise in migration are bringing Europe under intense external pressure. To discuss the future of France, and French and European responses to these pressures, Anatol Lieven, director of the Eurasia program at the Quincy Institute was joined by Pierre Lellouche, a leading French conservative politician and expert on international affairs.
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Pierre Lellouche
Dr Pierre Lellouche served as Secretary of State for European Affairs and then for Foreign Trade in the French Foreign Ministry from 2009-2012, and served five terms as as a parliamentary deputy from 1997 to 2009 and 2012 to 2017. He was French Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan, and represented France in the the negotiations to establish the iITER experimental thermonuclear fusion reactor in Cadarache. Dr Lellouche is the author of numerous distinguished books on international affairs, including Le Nouveau Monde: de l’ordre de Yalta au chaos des Nations (Grasset, 1992). His latest book, Engrenages: La Guerre d’Ukraine et le Basculement du Monde (“Spirals: The Ukraine War and the Toppling of the World”) was published in November of 2024.

Anatol Lieven
Dr. Anatol Lieven is the director of the Eurasia Program at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. He was formerly a professor at Georgetown University in Qatar and in the War Studies Department of King’s College London. From 1985 to 1998, Lieven worked as a journalist in South Asia, the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe and covered the wars in Afghanistan, Chechnya and the southern Caucasus. Lieven is the author of several books, including "Chechnya: Tombstone of Russian Power?" and "Ukraine and Russia: A Fraternal Rivalry."